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Mourinho

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I have been managing a u 9's team with another coach and we have been doing some really good warm ups but we need to freshen it up so the players are switched on.jogging,sprints,passing,set pieces.all replys welcome thanks


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What has been your routine?


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a slow jog.then strectch and then a couple of sprint drills and the we play monkey in the middle and then get them to line up and they jog to the cone and we throw the ball to them and they have to control with a certain part of their body which we pick and we make them pass in their positions.we are just trying to get a wider knowledge of warm up drills.


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Have you incorporated any of the following in your warm up?


Warm Up (Dynamic Stretching and Movements)

 

Cone to cone is 10 yards. Repeat each drill 3 times. Jog back.

 

1.      Slow jog around cone and back – 3 times

2.      Side Step 2 + 2, jog back – 3x (Like a shuffle with body at 45 degrees)

3.      Side Step while swinging arms up and down or across chest – 3x

4.      Step overs up and Back – 3x

5.      High Heels out and jog back – 3x (Butt Kicks)

6.      High knees

7.      High Kicks, Alternate Legs

8.      Lift knee and roll hips inside to out, alternate

9.      Extend leg and roll hips inside to out.

10.    Lift knee and roll hips outside in

11.    Extend leg and roll hips outside in, alternate

12.    Backward shuffle two out and two in repeat to cone

13.    Rapidly lift high knees, Body forward

14.    Running stance, fast feet and hand movement, sprint to cone

15.    In pairs facing each other jump – head and sprint to cone

16.    Skip (off toes) for the calf.

 


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8 yr olds don't need to stretch as much.........


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that may be, dev, but it doesn't harm them and it is good practice to get players used to the idea of a proper warm-up from the earliest age.

dynamic flex is a most soccer-specific type of warm-up and as such is a good habit to get into players.

but some of the exercises can be done with the ball, in the form of a "gates/windows" grid.

divide the team into two groups,one on the outside, one on the inside, the outside group have a ball each, and the inside players jog to a player on the outside and receive the ball from chest to toe and back first time. then switch groups. keep this up until all parts of the body allowable in the game for control have been used; also, build the exercise from a jog to a sprint. its a fun game, a skill builder, and a warm-up and stretch all in one.

but good habits begin early and i wouldn't be so quick to make sweeping statements such as "8 yo's don't need to stretch as much" - although correct in the detail, it misses the bigger picture
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I agree.  They shouldn't do ballistic or isometric stretches at all. 

I posted the dynamic movements to give some coaches an idea what a proper warm up should look like.  I fear most coaches have their players form a circle and do what their HS coaches did (static and ballistic stretches). 


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Dynamic stretching and warm up is the only way to go. Though, I dont' think it really matters what kind of stretching 8 yr olds do.


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Firstly, make a 'Cross' of 5 cones - 5m distance between each cone
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Now players line up in pairs either side of the first cone facing forward.
On a signal the first two jog forward to the middle cone. At the middle cone the left one peels off to the left and does side steps to the left cone and back always facing forward. The right player peels off to the right and side steps etc etc.
When they both get back to the middle they turn and jog backwards to the top cone they peel off left and right and jog outside the cross back to the start.
The next pair of players dont start until the pair in front turn and go backwards from the mid cone.
They all repeat the circuit 4 times with the last circuit done as fast as they can.
Then they repeat using a ball where they dribble to mid cone, side roll left and right or right and left, then drag the ball backwards to top cone cone.

When doing the stretches, although at this age its a good habit forming idea more than any physical enhancement ( plus it gets then psychologically ready for competition), try and have them in a circle ( no, not the dreaded pass and move)- then one player goes into the middle and does ANY stretch ,dynamic(moving) they want and all the others copy that player for 8 seconds. Then instantly the center player swaps with another outer player and repeats the sequence using a different stretch/movement. They each take a turn into the middle and must do a different one each time.
This can be a lot of fun watching to see what they try to come up with.

Then you can use "Miss a Man" routine where players form a large enough circle ( center circle is fine ). One player passes to the player two to their left ( missing a man). This player stun passes back in the direction where it came from and the player that was missed comes in towards the middle of the circle slightly and plays the ball to THEIR next player but one ( missing out the player who passed to them). This sequence is repeated all the way round.

Once they get it going, then a second ball can be added on the opposite side of the circle. Or change the direction from anti clockwise to clockwise
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I don't believe you need to do any specific stretching exercises at this age, I'd suggest the warm-up is done with a ball.

One thing you could do is every player in the grid with a ball just jogging areound with the ball, On command 1 they touch the top of the ball with the front of each foot alternating feet, for 5 or ten touches each foot (touches should be light and encourage a boucing motion).  On command 2 they do the same with alternating knees, on command 3 they sit on ball.  This should be enough to loosen them up.

You can then go onto a passing and/or shooting exercise.



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Since our focus at U9 is almost entirely on player development (or should be),  and given the scarcity of time we have to work with the players,  I like to treat the pre-match time much like I would treat any other training time.  It's additional time to work on building their skill base.

With that mindset,  I like activites that involve ballskill work,  keepaway-type stuff,  and 3v2 or other match-like activities.  If we keep the mindset that a U9 match is really just the weekly application of what they've learned,  and that it is really meaningless in the grand plan,  then it becomes much easier for the coach to choose what to work on in warm-ups.

As mentioned by others,  it's probably just a waste of time to have 8-9 y.o.'s doing stretching and other non-soccer movements for game warmups.  Do you have them do such activites prior to regular training sessions?  There's really no need.  Why spend valuable training time on activities that are of no/negligible value,  when you could be warming up their bodies with a soccer ball at their feet?

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Want to throw my $.02 about stretching in warm-ups...

In my experience, a good number of 8 and 9 yo's really do need stretching in training and on game day. I've seen many injuries in young kids in soccer (as well as other sports) that could've been prevented with regular attention to proper stretching.
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Brian, that was very similar to the start of my warm-up for U11 & U12 and up.  But for younger players I mostly do ball work. 

I start with passing, controlling, volleying and heading in pairs to get them moving and thinking about playing.  I then do some small group pass & move exercises to get start getting them warm-up.  We then increase the intensity by playing keep away exercises.  Finally, when the players legs are very warmed up we do shooting and last crossing.

Ecostello - there is a big difference between warming up and "stretching."  Based on your comments, you might benefit by doing some searches and learning more about those differences.
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IMHO, technical warm up is as important as physical warm up, especially before a game, so I introduce both. First we do some two touch passing, followed by a jog-dribble or SLOW pass and move type drills. Then we stretch. Then we go into one touch passing and 2v2 or 3v3 keep away. Then we move on to shooting and keeper warm up.

Total time is 15 to 20 minutes.

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THERE IS NO CORRELATION BETWEEN STRETCHING AND THE REDUCTION OF INJURY.

THERE IS A CORRELATION BETWEEN STRETCHING AND THE REDUCTION STRENGTH AS MEASURED BY 1 REP MAX.


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No LINES, LAPS or LECTURES  thats what I heard.
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THERE IS NO CORRELATION BETWEEN STRETCHING AND THE REDUCTION OF INJURY.

THERE IS A CORRELATION BETWEEN STRETCHING AND THE REDUCTION STRENGTH AS MEASURED BY 1 REP MAX.

That said, daily stretching of the calf muscles does seem to help reduce pain associated with "Severs Disease."  This is condition is a type of growing pain that shows up about when kids are 9-12 and usually goes away in a year.

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Don't really want to make this thread just about stretching... but there is an important point in all this for overall athletic development for young kids. 

I have found many of the studies on stretching and the conclusions that have circulated from them to be somewhat flawed--most studies have found limited to no injury prevention benefit to stretching (some even found stretching lead to MORE injuries!). 

BUT, cohort group studies have an incredible amount of uncontrolled bias and the randomized control trials that I have seen so far have only looked at very limited protocols for stretching. AND on top of that, very little has been done in the field of youth athletic development. In my opinion, there is still very little that is actually known about stretching other than some practices that can be harmful.

With all that said, some things are "known" (I do use the term loosely ;-) about stretching in general and stretching for kids. 1) stretching can provide pain relief 2) warm up before strenuous activity is the best "game day" activity to reduce injury (the best predictors of injury prevention seem to be aerobic fitness, strength, and coordination) 3) stretching AFTER activity does seem to be effective at both injury prevention and aid in recovery for many muscle groups. Thought note, some muscle/joint/tendon groups do show benefits from pre-game stretching.

So, moral of the story--don't forget a warm down routine too!

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Players, regardless of age, also need to also prepare mentally to play the game. Because you, as coach, aren't going to be out there on the field with them during the game, you might want to try letting them run through the warmups without your supervision. Just watch from the bench.

I've learned that if you make them responsible for the pre-game routine - whatever that routine might be - they take it more seriously.

At U9, warmup should be very basic. A few simple stretches, a few line runs, and then let them play keep away.


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IMHO, best U9 warm up is 1v1.

Players in pairs with a set of two cones.  Set the cones about 1 yd apart for the goal, score either direction.  Play 1v1 for a minute or so.  2 points for a win, 1 for a tie, 0 for losing.  Change partners. 

I like 1v1 line soccer in a grid of 10x15 better, but using gates is so easy to set up for pre-game warm-up.  Kids can grab the cones as they arrive, find a spot and start playing.  I would play this game in practice and the line soccer game so you are not explaining it while they should be warming up.  The kids get plenty of touches, you can encourage them to use their moves, remind them of defending principles, etc.

1v1 is my players very favorite thing to do.  They will stay after practice to play and if they play before a game they will have worked up a sweat, hit the ground several times, got a ton of touches, caught an elbow or two.  They will be ready to play.

I used to have them do a series of touches like toe taps, inbetweens, close control dribbling, v's etc.  In my opinion, 1v1 is better.  It gets the kids mentally prepared, downright intense.  The experience that really convinced me of the use of this warm up was we were playing a decent team on a muddy field.  When the kids lined up, we were wet, mud from head to toe, on their toes and pacing waiting for the ref to blow the whistle.  The other team, fresh from some drills and stretching were hugging themselves bracing against the wet and cold.  One look and you knew who were the players.

If you want to add a little intensity, you can have the kids with the most points be the captains or reward them with an ice cold bottle of GatorAde for the game.  The Gatorade works wonders.  I have a small ice chest with two bottles in it.  The players literally expode out of their cars and sprint to get started.  They always look for the ice chest, making sure I didn't forget it.
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