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Brianm

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With a population of 311 million more than T&T, how can we not come up with 15 better players than they have???? I actually root against the USMNT, they are just plain bad no way can I support them. Sorry for the rant but they are just plain embarrassing.
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If there are no 15 better players then we need to look in the mirror: the chain of coaches and administrators from youth to pros has failed.  We are in the player development pyramid for the USMNT.
Brianm

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Maybe better player selection would be a place to start.
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Not so sure.  Those in the last game vs T&T seem to be the best available.  Who would you have picked that was not there?  Are you suggesting better selection at the younger ages?
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To much lets get big fast players and play kick and run. To many coaches and clubs and parents only care about immediate results and not the development of players.

I think the U23 team would have played better and would have won.
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As far as U23,  I think he had 3 young players

Kellyn Acosta (FC Dallas)

Paul Arriola (DC United)

Pulisic  (Borussia Dortmund)


Other U23 canidates in theory:

Jordan Morris (Seattle) ?

Julian Green (Byern Munich) ? (Klinsmann said he is better than Donovan?)

Emerson Hyndman (Fulham) ?


I think Bruce likely had to limit changes for continuity.   I think he favored MLS (wondolowski?) and his prior players (Gonzales).  Maybe because he knew them and did not have time to experiment.

He did not have say a Brian McBride.  Not sure if he used Dempsey enough.  They had chances to score but did not have the quality to get the result.   The games I saw we play pretty ugly and uninspiring soccer.  The team lost it's character in the face of adversity under Klinsmann.     Klinsman got some of this fight in his games by using Jones.

I am surprised how we have players get to USMNT that often have poor first touch.   Altidore has been getting starts since he was 20 years old and no one could take his spot away from him?
Brianm

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I’m not talking about some of the u23 I’m say8ng the whole team. At least there would have been an effort.
mbiyenm

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If the USMNT had qualified for the World Cup, almost no one would have complained.   The proximate cause of their elimination was losing the last game where they were 90% favorites.  All they had to do was not lose the game. 

I agree the game plan and attitude were incorrect.   Most teams in that situation secure the back and rely on the counter.  I expected 4 defenders, 3 defensive midfielders, 2 multi-role midfielders and 1 striker,  Instead, the team had  defensive midfielders, 2 wide attacking midfielders and 3 forwards.  It was as if the game plan was to score first (and maybe sit back).

Essentially, T&T had the run of the midfield and looked good.  The few times the USMNT pressed, they got better results as when they scored.  So maybe younger (U23?)  or fresher players would have had the energy to overcome the flawed game plan.

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Two separate issues here.
First off, as Mbiyenm said, our tactics for the final game were way off the mark.  So was player selection.  Why leave Cameron on the bench for Gonzales?  Why play three forwards when it is more important not to lose then it is to win?
So Arena got his tactics wrong, without a doubt.  As Gulatti said, you don't make wholesale changes off a chance that came off the post.  Fair enough.

But let's look a little deeper.  This was pretty much the same team that was at the last WC, with the exception of Pulisic.  Arena had even said that had they qualified, they would have needed to make changes to the roster.
But why were we going into this qualifying cycle with the wrong players?  Or at least players that were too old.  I can't find the exact article, but it pointed out that there was a gap where we were missing players in the 22-28 age range, and that's where players are in their prime.


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