Soccer coaching forum
and-again soccer forum
Register  |   |   |  Latest Topics
 
 
 


Reply
  Author   Comment   Page 2 of 3      Prev   1   2   3   Next
Kiery

Avatar / Picture

Registered:
Posts: 353
Reply with quote  #21 
Chaps, apologies for the delay in posting still been reading when I can, and hope everyone is well.

I am actually doing a webinar on rondos in november, if anyone is interested?
Firemaker

Registered:
Posts: 85
Reply with quote  #22 
Yes. Very. Through whom are you taking this webinar?
Kiery

Avatar / Picture

Registered:
Posts: 353
Reply with quote  #23 
It is part of a conference I am presenting at inspirefootballcoaching.com

I think the webinar is free but you can register to see the presentations from the event itself too.

I also posted another presentation I done on Rondos on this forum before. Let me know if you would like me to post it again.
Firemaker

Registered:
Posts: 85
Reply with quote  #24 
Yes, please.
Kiery

Avatar / Picture

Registered:
Posts: 353
Reply with quote  #25 
Here is the presentation

You can download from this site too. Let me know your thoughts

http://www.slideshare.net/Kieran85uk/rondos-how-to-use-spains-secret-weapon
Firemaker

Registered:
Posts: 85
Reply with quote  #26 
Love it. Blazed through it wrote down a page or so of notes and sketches. Thanks. 

This goes along with the stuff I've been working on this season. Been using Enganche's material mostly. 

Your slide "Train as we play"—that's exactly it. Every drill we do now, relates exactly to how I want them to play in the game. It's no longer, just an activity to "develop passing and receiving". it's developing P&R as well as rehearsing how we will play in an actual game and the little parts of the game (playing out of the back, penetrating, circulating, switching, etc). Case in point, I've used one drill (pictured in the previous page) (a 7v0/3/4/5/6) in every session this season. Some days it will be the same thing, some days we use it to focus our work on a different aspect of play. 
harleypamer

Registered:
Posts: 4
Reply with quote  #27 
Or this:




Discover more soccer skills at: Best Soccer Training
coachkev

Avatar / Picture

Registered:
Posts: 14,626
Reply with quote  #28 

Means to an end guys...
Rondo's are a 'tool' towards a desired goal.
Moving from circle rondo's to Directional Rondo's is a bridging element that is useful for the more experienced coach.

Using colours as the base for this 'directional' element, the 'touches' have reasoning behind them.

^..........................blue........................^

             x               x
                                            x

      x                          D                  x
Red                                                     white
                      D

        x                                        x
                     x         

                                   x
^.......................yellow........................^

Here, all the players play against 2 chasing defenders but now they don't just 'pass around the circle', they now have to be ready to instantly respond to a signal from the coach.
The coach at some point, calls either "Blue, White, Red or Yellow" and x's must instantly play the next pass to an x who has moved in front of that nominated coloured cone.

Now, the x's now have a target as well as keeping possession. This takes it from a stand alone technical 'drill' to a more goal oriented 'functional' exercise as well as giving the defs practice in "Whats the priority?" decision making.

Kiery

Avatar / Picture

Registered:
Posts: 353
Reply with quote  #29 
You're right, Kev.

The rondos in a circle are almost exclusively used as a warm up or recovery exercise.

The more tactical element comes into play when you add other game realistic aspects.

A huge part of using rondos is the automitisation of the short, sharp, one and two touch passing alongside the constant movement.
Firemaker

Registered:
Posts: 85
Reply with quote  #30 
Kiery, do you have any rondo forms that will help improve our wide play? 
Kiery

Avatar / Picture

Registered:
Posts: 353
Reply with quote  #31 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Firemaker
Kiery, do you have any rondo forms that will help improve our wide play? 


What aspect of wide play?


Firemaker

Registered:
Posts: 85
Reply with quote  #32 
Long version answer...

We play out of the back. Full backs open up for CB, and outside mids open up for the fullbacks (ideally out to the touch line). In our system, the outside mids have to do a ton of running up and down the flanks to help bring out the ball, then support the attack. 

Defensively we run a pedulating back line, and the back-side outside midfielder, drops and connects with our backline when the ball is on the other side. They do this better than the other aspects but still need to put in a lot of running. 

I'm sure it's a multi-faceted solution, what I'm looking for is an activity that will get them used to the up and back running and being productive out there in build up and chance creation. 


coachkev

Avatar / Picture

Registered:
Posts: 14,626
Reply with quote  #33 

Firemaker,
Some SSGs that may help take the Rondo element into match play.

1. Only goals scored from crosses count. Teams can cross from either side or from nominated side only - (Team A cross from the right, Team B cross from the left - 5 mins then reverse order and repeat.

2. On possession, both teams must completed 3 x 1 touch passes before going for goal.

3. On possession, must play to BOTH wings without opponents touching the ball before a goal counts

Kiery

Avatar / Picture

Registered:
Posts: 353
Reply with quote  #34 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Firemaker
Long version answer...

We play out of the back. Full backs open up for CB, and outside mids open up for the fullbacks (ideally out to the touch line). In our system, the outside mids have to do a ton of running up and down the flanks to help bring out the ball, then support the attack. 

Defensively we run a pedulating back line, and the back-side outside midfielder, drops and connects with our backline when the ball is on the other side. They do this better than the other aspects but still need to put in a lot of running. 

I'm sure it's a multi-faceted solution, what I'm looking for is an activity that will get them used to the up and back running and being productive out there in build up and chance creation. 




In this type of situation, a rondo is probably not ideal. One could be used to plant the seed but the larger activity would need to be based around the spcific movements you want to see in the larger match.

Probably the best rondo/possession game, would be one similar to the 3 zone game in the presentation I posted with the wide players being the fullbacks. You could use the zones to show where they should be in relation to where the ball is and they should be available as a wide option in each 3rd of the pitch from build up to combination play to score.

Then move that onto a half pitch phase of play to goal and the pictures should be the same. one set of fullbacks will be working on playing out, the other on middle third and final third. After a set amount of time change the fullback pairing round and they will get to work on all aspects.

Just one way of looking at it.
coachkev

Avatar / Picture

Registered:
Posts: 14,626
Reply with quote  #35 

I like rotational positional play in Practice SSGs. This is where you have 2 teams that are set out deliberately in specific positions before the game starts and at every restart they rotate one position clockwise. You could even do it after every attack from either team...

*.........................|  GK |.........................*


 

    X1                       X2                      X3


    O4                       O5                     O6


 

    X6                       X5                      X4


  O3                         O2                     O1

 

*.........................|  GK |.........................*

 And now the positions after the first rotation...

*.........................|  GK |.........................*


    X6                       X1                     X2


    O3                       O4                    O5


 

    X5                       X4                     X3


  O2                        O1                     O6

 

*.........................|  GK |.........................*


 

Firemaker

Registered:
Posts: 85
Reply with quote  #36 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kiery
Quote:
Originally Posted by Firemaker
Long version answer...

We play out of the back. Full backs open up for CB, and outside mids open up for the fullbacks (ideally out to the touch line). In our system, the outside mids have to do a ton of running up and down the flanks to help bring out the ball, then support the attack. 

Defensively we run a pedulating back line, and the back-side outside midfielder, drops and connects with our backline when the ball is on the other side. They do this better than the other aspects but still need to put in a lot of running. 

I'm sure it's a multi-faceted solution, what I'm looking for is an activity that will get them used to the up and back running and being productive out there in build up and chance creation. 




In this type of situation, a rondo is probably not ideal. One could be used to plant the seed but the larger activity would need to be based around the spcific movements you want to see in the larger match.

Probably the best rondo/possession game, would be one similar to the 3 zone game in the presentation I posted with the wide players being the fullbacks. You could use the zones to show where they should be in relation to where the ball is and they should be available as a wide option in each 3rd of the pitch from build up to combination play to score.

Then move that onto a half pitch phase of play to goal and the pictures should be the same. one set of fullbacks will be working on playing out, the other on middle third and final third. After a set amount of time change the fullback pairing round and they will get to work on all aspects.

Just one way of looking at it.


Thanks. Makes sense. Yes, I actually wrote that activity you diagrammed that had the two neutrals running the flanks. 

Right now, I like them playing in tight spaces so we play 7v6 in a 30x20/35x25. Tomorrow, I'm going to lengthen our playing area to necessitate more movement up and down the pitch. 


coachkev

Avatar / Picture

Registered:
Posts: 14,626
Reply with quote  #37 

Another particularly effective SSG to promote wing play is to have one player from each side in a central zone OUTSIDE the playing area.
The aim is for the teams inside playing to play to their outer player who crosses within two touches OR drives into the playing area to compete while the player who passed to them takes their place.

     *.........................|  GK |.........................*


        X                          X                     X


* *                                                                * *

        O                       O                     O

X                                                                  X
 
O                                                                  O
          X                      X                  X

* *                                                                * *

          O                      O                 O

 

    *.........................|  GK |.........................*

EV

Registered:
Posts: 425
Reply with quote  #38 
Check this BM positional rondo session out - Go to the 26:00 mark for a peak.  I use this with my center back, center mid and one forward in green as neutrals, as in the video.  The LB, RB, LW & RW in red. The substitute LB, RB, LW & RW defending in blue.  If the blues defenders win the ball they play on the outside of the grid, red become the defenders and play inside the grid.

I also go with 2 CB's at one end, 2 Center Mids (one in the defensive half and one in the attacking half) and a forward (all in green - as neutrals) at the other end, with the same LB,RB,LW,RW in red and blue set up as above, only in a slightly larger grid.  Each player stays and plays in their respective position.  When we have the ball we spread out (go outside the grid) when we don't have the ball we compress/shrink in and play inside the grid.  I use these two positional rondos a lot.

Kieran, I used your stuff a lot last year, great stuff.  Thank you.

Kiery

Avatar / Picture

Registered:
Posts: 353
Reply with quote  #39 
Thanks a lot for your kind words, EV.

Always nice to hear it is useful for people.
coachkev

Avatar / Picture

Registered:
Posts: 14,626
Reply with quote  #40 

Kiery
May I take this opportunity to say thanks for all the years of sharing.
Respect

Kev

Previous Topic | Next Topic
Print
Reply

Quick Navigation:

COPYRIGHT @ 2004 - 2016 AND-AGAIN, ALL RIGHTS RESERVED